From kalt at taranis.org  Mon Oct  1 21:36:03 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:36:03 -0400
Subject: [drraw-users] Stacking DS templates
In-Reply-To: <5648b5570709071122l63bd9bbbxa368f32128bbbd53@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5648b5570709071122l63bd9bbbxa368f32128bbbd53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20071002013603.GC2352@bzz.taranis.org>

On Sep 07, Andi wrote:
| I am using version 2.2a4 and I unable to stack an DS template to previous
| data sources - first DS from the DS template is always with out STACK
| keyword.
| Is this a bug or feature?

Neither, "lack of a feature" ;)
Solution: http://web.taranis.org/pipermail/drraw-users/2007q3/000209.html

| Also is there a way to reorder or sort the matches of DS template? This
| would be useful when stacking.

Unfortunately not.  I'm not sure how one would go about
implementing something like this.

| PS! Why is google not indexing the drraw-users archives?

Hmm, i don't seem to allow robots to crawl /mailman/ or /pipermail/

From dialp at ucar.edu  Tue Oct  2 12:07:12 2007
From: dialp at ucar.edu (paul dial)
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:07:12 -0600
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion
Message-ID: <47026CB0.1030006@ucar.edu>

Hi,

I'm having some problems with the selection criteria for a template.
Here is some background info.  I'm using v2.2a4.  The rrds in question
live in a directory structure that looks like this
/<base_directory>/<member>/peerAS_<peerAS#>.rrd.  Each 'member' has the
exact same peer AS rrds.  My base regular expression looks like this:

(.+)\/peerAS(.+)\.rrd

Ideally, when I view the template, I would be able to select a view
based on member name and the resulting graph will show all peerAS
traffic for that member

When I configure my selection criteria as '$1' the 'member' name,
however, my list of available RRDs is truncated.  When I configure the
selection criteria to be: $1,$2 I am able to see the desired list of
RRDs. However, when attempting to view the graphs, the list of views to
select from is based on '$1,$2'.  So I have a list that looks something
like this:

member A,_209
member A,_11164
member A,_3354
member B,_209
member B,_11164
member B,_3354

There is only one graph to view and no matter which 'member A' selection
is made, the correct graph is displayed, but it is  a bit confusing to
users.

My "File RE" looks like this:  ($1)/peerAS_209.rrd  and is repeated for
about 5 different peerASes.

Is the selection criteria supposed to affect the list of RRD's based on
the "base regular expression"?  What am I doing wrong?

My other question relates variable expansion.  For the template
described above, I wanted to use $1, the member name, as part of the
label, however, when I put $1 in the 'Label/Format' field the end result
just displays '1'.

I've attached a snap shot of my configuration in the hopes it might
provide some clarity.

thanks,

paul
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From james.lose at twcable.com  Fri Oct 12 15:03:48 2007
From: james.lose at twcable.com (Lose, James)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:03:48 -0400
Subject: [drraw-users] Porting Templates Between drraw Installations
Message-ID: <2817AF6876483A489EB08E0D28D232550A0BAC6B@PRVPVSMAIL07.corp.twcable.com>

Can anyone offer advice on how best to port drraw templates from one
installation to another?
 
Thanks,
 

Jim Lose

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From vitroth+ at cmu.edu  Fri Oct 12 15:59:04 2007
From: vitroth+ at cmu.edu (David Nolan)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:59:04 -0400
Subject: [drraw-users] Porting Templates Between drraw Installations
In-Reply-To: <2817AF6876483A489EB08E0D28D232550A0BAC6B@PRVPVSMAIL07.corp.twcable.com>
References: <2817AF6876483A489EB08E0D28D232550A0BAC6B@PRVPVSMAIL07.corp.twcable.com>
Message-ID: <1cbe50830710121259iacd6e86q47a56d881af807c0@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/12/07, Lose, James <james.lose at twcable.com> wrote:
>
>
> Can anyone offer advice on how best to port drraw templates from one
> installation to another?
>


I've copied them around via scp, etc.  If your local directories of
RRD files are in the same places that should just work.  Otherwise you
may want to use sed/perl to modify various paths within the files.

Though in practice, the technique I use most is to NFS export the RRD
files all to a single front end, so I can graph data from multiple
collection engines together in one graph.  You could probably do the
same trick to NFS export the drraw saved graphs directory, but that
would only work if all your directories are in the same places.

-David

From jlambert at ften.com  Mon Nov 12 15:00:53 2007
From: jlambert at ften.com (Justin Lambert)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:00:53 -0800
Subject: [drraw-users] Newbie - CDEF and Units
Message-ID: <20BBD256C2945D46822E970C0B5EFEA302D4670C@dhost002-32.dex002.intermedia.net>

I am using drraw 2.1.3 and having a horrible time getting a CDEF added
to my graph.  I must be making it way harder than what it needs to be...

 

CDEF=used_mem,1024,*

 

What do I put in which blanks?  I have read the directions and am not
getting any help and haven't been able to find the answer to this
(seemingly) simple question through google. 

 

I am also having a problem with units on my graphs.  My data is in MB -
how do I get it to display that on the graphs without first converting
my data to bytes then using the units exponent to convert it back to MB?

 

Thanks,

jl

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From kalt at taranis.org  Tue Nov 13 21:18:19 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:18:19 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] Newbie - CDEF and Units
In-Reply-To: <20BBD256C2945D46822E970C0B5EFEA302D4670C@dhost002-32.dex002.intermedia.net>
References: <20BBD256C2945D46822E970C0B5EFEA302D4670C@dhost002-32.dex002.intermedia.net>
Message-ID: <20071114021819.GA13706@bzz.taranis.org>

On Nov 12, Justin Lambert wrote:
| I am using drraw 2.1.3 and having a horrible time getting a CDEF added
| to my graph.  I must be making it way harder than what it needs to be...
| 
| CDEF=used_mem,1024,*
| 
| What do I put in which blanks?  I have read the directions and am not
| getting any help and haven't been able to find the answer to this
| (seemingly) simple question through google. 

"used_mem" is wrong, that's the DS name in the RRD file, but
as you added it to the graph, drraw named it differently,
usually a single letter (a, b, c, ...).  That's what you need
to use in the CDEF box.

| I am also having a problem with units on my graphs.  My data is in MB -
| how do I get it to display that on the graphs without first converting
| my data to bytes then using the units exponent to convert it back to MB?

RRDtool should allow to do this, but that's never worked well
for me, so i often end up converting units.

From jlambert at ften.com  Wed Nov 14 11:57:59 2007
From: jlambert at ften.com (Justin Lambert)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:57:59 -0800
Subject: [drraw-users] Newbie - CDEF and Units
In-Reply-To: <20071114021819.GA13706@bzz.taranis.org>
References: <20BBD256C2945D46822E970C0B5EFEA302D4670C@dhost002-32.dex002.intermedia.net>
	<20071114021819.GA13706@bzz.taranis.org>
Message-ID: <20BBD256C2945D46822E970C0B5EFEA302DF72A7@dhost002-32.dex002.intermedia.net>

Wow - that was amazingly simple now that I know that. Converting
everything to bytes then back to MB fixed the unit problem as well.

One last (probably very easy question) is how do I add a CDEF in the
bottom portion of the graphing box so I can do a 95th percentile?
=numbytes,95,PERCENT

Thanks,
jl


-----Original Message-----
From: drraw-users-bounces at taranis.org
[mailto:drraw-users-bounces at taranis.org] On Behalf Of Christophe Kalt
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:18 PM
To: drraw-users at taranis.org
Subject: Re: [drraw-users] Newbie - CDEF and Units

On Nov 12, Justin Lambert wrote:
| I am using drraw 2.1.3 and having a horrible time getting a CDEF added
| to my graph.  I must be making it way harder than what it needs to
be...
| 
| CDEF=used_mem,1024,*
| 
| What do I put in which blanks?  I have read the directions and am not
| getting any help and haven't been able to find the answer to this
| (seemingly) simple question through google. 

"used_mem" is wrong, that's the DS name in the RRD file, but
as you added it to the graph, drraw named it differently,
usually a single letter (a, b, c, ...).  That's what you need
to use in the CDEF box.

| I am also having a problem with units on my graphs.  My data is in MB
-
| how do I get it to display that on the graphs without first converting
| my data to bytes then using the units exponent to convert it back to
MB?

RRDtool should allow to do this, but that's never worked well
for me, so i often end up converting units.
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From lalegria at ics-canada.net  Wed Nov 14 14:39:29 2007
From: lalegria at ics-canada.net (Alegria, Luis)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:39:29 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] STACK NOT on Drop Down Box
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1195068354.18904.drraw-users@taranis.org>
References: <mailman.0.1195068354.18904.drraw-users@taranis.org>
Message-ID: <6A14143AA405FA438E738A8BA1178831C33668@ISLEXB.ca.icscourier.local>

Hi Everyone:

I've been using the latest version of drraw for a week now, very neat
tool. I've noticed today that when creating or editing a graph, Under
Type Color column the option STACK does not appear on the list, even
tough it was define in the draw.cgi script on line 277

my @graphtypes = ( 'LINE1', 'LINE2', 'LINE3', 'LINE?', 'AREA', 'TICK',
'GPRINT', 'STACK', 'COMMENT', 'HRULE', 'VRULE', 'SHIFT', '-Nothing-' );

Is This A Bug ?.

Also When defining a CDEF (a,-1,*) for  any ds, it does not plot the
data the graph under the x axis, they just do not show up on the graph.

Thank You

Luis Alegria
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From dialp at ucar.edu  Thu Nov 15 09:10:44 2007
From: dialp at ucar.edu (paul dial)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:10:44 -0700
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion]
Message-ID: <473C5364.9080503@ucar.edu>

Hi,

I had previously posted this message but did not get any response.
Thought I'd try again and see if someone is able to help.

thanks,

paul

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:07:12 -0600
From: paul dial <dialp at ucar.edu>
To: drraw-users at taranis.org

Hi,

I'm having some problems with the selection criteria for a template.
Here is some background info.  I'm using v2.2a4.  The rrds in question
live in a directory structure that looks like this
/<base_directory>/<member>/peerAS_<peerAS#>.rrd.  Each 'member' has the
exact same peer AS rrds.  My base regular expression looks like this:

(.+)\/peerAS(.+)\.rrd

Ideally, when I view the template, I would be able to select a view
based on member name and the resulting graph will show all peerAS
traffic for that member

When I configure my selection criteria as '$1' the 'member' name,
however, my list of available RRDs is truncated.  When I configure the
selection criteria to be: $1,$2 I am able to see the desired list of
RRDs. However, when attempting to view the graphs, the list of views to
select from is based on '$1,$2'.  So I have a list that looks something
like this:

member A,_209
member A,_11164
member A,_3354
member B,_209
member B,_11164
member B,_3354

There is only one graph to view and no matter which 'member A' selection
is made, the correct graph is displayed, but it is  a bit confusing to
users.

My "File RE" looks like this:  ($1)/peerAS_209.rrd  and is repeated for
about 5 different peerASes.

Is the selection criteria supposed to affect the list of RRD's based on
the "base regular expression"?  What am I doing wrong?

My other question relates variable expansion.  For the template
described above, I wanted to use $1, the member name, as part of the
label, however, when I put $1 in the 'Label/Format' field the end result
just displays '1'.

I've attached a snap shot of my configuration in the hopes it might
provide some clarity.

thanks,

paul


-- 
----
Paul Dial
Network Engineer
National Center for Atmospheric Research
303-497-1261
dialp at ucar.edu
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From kalt at taranis.org  Thu Nov 15 10:03:36 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:03:36 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] STACK NOT on Drop Down Box
In-Reply-To: <6A14143AA405FA438E738A8BA1178831C33668@ISLEXB.ca.icscourier.local>
References: <mailman.0.1195068354.18904.drraw-users@taranis.org>
	<6A14143AA405FA438E738A8BA1178831C33668@ISLEXB.ca.icscourier.local>
Message-ID: <20071115150335.GA25380@bzz.taranis.org>

On Nov 14, Alegria, Luis wrote:
| I've been using the latest version of drraw for a week now, very neat
| tool. I've noticed today that when creating or editing a graph, Under
| Type Color column the option STACK does not appear on the list, even
| tough it was define in the draw.cgi script on line 277

STACK is obsoleted by RRDtool 1.2.x which you're probably
running.  There's a check box to replace the functionality.

| Also When defining a CDEF (a,-1,*) for  any ds, it does not plot the
| data the graph under the x axis, they just do not show up on the graph.

Check how you set the Y Grid parameters.

Christophe

From wernli at in2p3.fr  Mon Nov 19 10:24:52 2007
From: wernli at in2p3.fr (Fabien Wernli)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:24:52 +0100
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion]
In-Reply-To: <473C5364.9080503@ucar.edu>
References: <473C5364.9080503@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <20071119152452.GJ10433@ccswiss.in2p3.fr>

On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 07:10:44AM -0700, paul dial wrote:
> I had previously posted this message but did not get any response.
> Thought I'd try again and see if someone is able to help.

sorry your enquiry is somewhat long I guess everybody is putting it aside
for times where more time is available ;)

Have you looked at the wiki?

e.g.
http://www.managedandmonitored.net/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=drraw:example_of_a_ds-based_template


From Lloyd.Parkes at ird.govt.nz  Wed Nov 21 15:21:07 2007
From: Lloyd.Parkes at ird.govt.nz (Lloyd Parkes)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:21:07 +1300
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion
Message-ID: <47449333.3020003@ird.govt.nz>

Hi there,
I'm trying to do something similar, and it took a bit of brute force and 
ignorance, but I got there.

I have a bunch of CPU usage rrds structured like this 
/<base_directory>/<server>.kstat.cpu<CPU#>.rrd and I want a template for the CPU 
usage of a whole server, not just a single CPU.

My base RE is (.+)\.kstat\.cpu31 so that I only get one match for each server. I 
have no Selection Expression. I have two File REs and they are both 
ASERVER\.kstat\.cpu[0-9]+. In the template info table I have 
ASERVER\.kstat\.cpu[0-9]+ mapped to $1.kstat.cpu[0-9]+

I think your problem is that your base RE is matching once for every file, 
rather than once for every <member>. Try changing your base RE to 
(.+)\/peerAS_209\.rrd and leaving your Selection Expression blank.

Cheers
-- 
Lloyd Parkes
Senior Systems Programmer
Open Systems
Ph: +64 4 890 2437

From Lloyd.Parkes at ird.govt.nz  Wed Nov 21 20:57:17 2007
From: Lloyd.Parkes at ird.govt.nz (Lloyd Parkes)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:57:17 +1300
Subject: [drraw-users] bugs in 2.2a4
Message-ID: <4744E1FD.6070807@ird.govt.nz>

Hi there,
I've just started playing with drraw and I've been pushing it quite hard. I'm 
afraid that I broke it. Twice. With luck I'll remember to attach the patches 
before I click on send.

This first problem is that with a DS based on a Perl re, the CDEF for the 
summary of the set of DSs is emitted after the CDEFs for the formula. This in 
turn means that the File RE example I have attached won't work. The CDEF 'f' is 
not defined by the time it is used. drraw emits this following rrdtool code

	 CDEF:F0=f0,10000000,/,f,/ \
	 CDEF:F1=f1,10000000,/,f,/ \
	 ...
	 CDEF:F30=f30,10000000,/,f,/ \
	 CDEF:F31=f31,10000000,/,f,/ \
	 CDEF:f=f0,POP,1,f1,POP,1,+,f2,POP,1,+,f3,POP,1,+,f4,POP... \

With the attached patch, CDEF:f is defined before the other CDEFs.

The other problem I have is that while I can stack the F(n) on top of F(n-1), I 
can't stack D(*) on top of F(*). I get

	 AREA:F0#FFFF00: \
	 AREA:F1#FFFF00::STACK \
	 ...
	 AREA:F31#FFFF00::STACK \
	 AREA:D0#0000FF: \
	 AREA:D1#0000FF::STACK \

when I really want

	 AREA:F0#FFFF00: \
	 AREA:F1#FFFF00::STACK \
	 ...
	 AREA:F31#FFFF00::STACK \
	 AREA:D0#0000FF::STACK \
	 AREA:D1#0000FF::STACK \

I'm afraid that I can't be bothered adding this second feature.

While I'm here, it would be nice if the the formulae in _Element, _Formula and 
_tCDEF could refer to the count of items in some way. This is a number that 
drraw calculates, so it should be easy enough to add to _tCDEF at least.

Cheers
-- 
Lloyd Parkes
Senior Systems Programmer
Open Systems
Ph: +64 4 890 2437
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From kalt at taranis.org  Sat Nov 24 10:52:53 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:52:53 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion
In-Reply-To: <47026CB0.1030006@ucar.edu>
References: <47026CB0.1030006@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <20071124155253.GA27370@bzz.taranis.org>

On Oct 02, paul dial wrote:
| I'm having some problems with the selection criteria for a template.

You're mixing different features that aren't really related.
First, work on getting a graph (not a template) working.  This
will require you to define a "DS template" as you've already
been doing.  For that, pick a hostname and try to build the
graph you want to see for that particular host.  From the
snapshots you sent, i think you'll have no trouble doing so.

Once that is done, and only then, you need to convert the
graph into a template.

Hope this helps,
Christophe

From kalt at taranis.org  Sat Nov 24 10:52:53 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:52:53 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] v2.2a4 selection criteria and variable expansion
In-Reply-To: <47026CB0.1030006@ucar.edu>
References: <47026CB0.1030006@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <20071124155253.GA27370@bzz.taranis.org>

On Oct 02, paul dial wrote:
| I'm having some problems with the selection criteria for a template.

You're mixing different features that aren't really related.
First, work on getting a graph (not a template) working.  This
will require you to define a "DS template" as you've already
been doing.  For that, pick a hostname and try to build the
graph you want to see for that particular host.  From the
snapshots you sent, i think you'll have no trouble doing so.

Once that is done, and only then, you need to convert the
graph into a template.

Hope this helps,
Christophe

From bernhard at baptist-family.com  Tue Nov 27 18:01:41 2007
From: bernhard at baptist-family.com (Bernhard Baptist)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:01:41 +0100
Subject: [drraw-users] more than one enty in "Additional rrdgraph Options"
	field
Message-ID: <op.t2g3k3rvvm9ttp@buero>

Hi there

I yust wondering how to add moe than one opzion in "Additional rrdgraph  
Options" entry filed in the graph editor window?
Tried several ways to seperate entries but no one worked for me.

Alternativly I would ask if there is a simple way to use rrd's feature for  
setting your own colors for the graph background,canvas,text,grid etc.
This is possible for pure rrd, but couldnt figure out how to do it in  
drraw.

Your help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance
bb


-- 
Visit our Homepage at:
http://www.baptist-family.com

From robert at sermilik.dk  Wed Nov 28 10:06:25 2007
From: robert at sermilik.dk (Robert Jeppesen)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:06:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [drraw-users] Generate drraw files from script
Message-ID: <60640.130.228.96.66.1196262385.squirrel@mail.prow.dk>

I have a network where other people generate devices that are stored in
MySQL.
My cron script that extract data automaticly create RRD files if they
doesn't exist, before updating.
I thought of making a script that generate the drraw file(s) and updated
the index file based on data from MySQL.

Can the filename for each drraw file be anything that I decide?

(I know I could 'decode' drraw.cgi but...)



From kalt at taranis.org  Wed Nov 28 14:04:20 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:04:20 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] more than one enty in "Additional rrdgraph
	Options" field
In-Reply-To: <op.t2g3k3rvvm9ttp@buero>
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On Nov 28, Bernhard Baptist wrote:
| I yust wondering how to add moe than one opzion in "Additional rrdgraph  
| Options" entry filed in the graph editor window?
| Tried several ways to seperate entries but no one worked for me.

space should just do it, no?

| Alternativly I would ask if there is a simple way to use rrd's feature for  
| setting your own colors for the graph background,canvas,text,grid etc.
| This is possible for pure rrd, but couldnt figure out how to do it in  
| drraw.

The above would be the way, but if it doesn't work.. :)

From kalt at taranis.org  Wed Nov 28 14:08:01 2007
From: kalt at taranis.org (Christophe Kalt)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:08:01 -0500
Subject: [drraw-users] Generate drraw files from script
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On Nov 28, Robert Jeppesen wrote:
| I thought of making a script that generate the drraw file(s) and updated
| the index file based on data from MySQL.

Yup, that can definitely be done.
But do you even need to?  With the right templates, you should
be able to pick up any new RRD file that shows up.

| Can the filename for each drraw file be anything that I decide?
| 
| (I know I could 'decode' drraw.cgi but...)

No, the format isn't free although i forget the details, i'm
afraid checking the code is your best bet.


Really, drraw needs to be rewritten to make such tasks
easier.  There should clearly be modules and so on.  A while
back, i was hoping to get around to it, but given that i can't
even find the motivation to finish up 2.2, i'd say that's
fairly unlikely at this point.